Thursday, June 30, 2005
I've so far resisted the temptation to comment on Mad Mark Latham's comments in his book; partly because they're hardly unexpected, partly because an awful lot of people have used them as an excuse to push their own barrows just that little bit further already, but mostly because it's all a gigantic distraction from the real game, which is the IR reforms coming in.
I have to, however, comment on Latham's description of Gallop, Carr and Beattie as 'A-grade assholes'. Sure, he might be sore that they gave his leadership the coup de grace, but what did he expect? He ran the Party into the ground following the election, and Dr Geoff over here in the west was coming up to an election facing all of the anti-Labor crap that was being generated by that. Of course he was going to respond!
The Premiers did no more than state the obvious - Latham had to go.
Apart from all that, where did Latham stand on issues close to Labor's heart? He was, as Peter Brent describes him a 'serial Howard imitator, who went to water at the slightest provocation'. Well, I just got back from a rally in Perth over IR, where Gallop addressed the crowd - that man has spine, presence and a brain.
So if he's an A-grade asshole, I reckon Latho rates a 'D'.
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I have to, however, comment on Latham's description of Gallop, Carr and Beattie as 'A-grade assholes'. Sure, he might be sore that they gave his leadership the coup de grace, but what did he expect? He ran the Party into the ground following the election, and Dr Geoff over here in the west was coming up to an election facing all of the anti-Labor crap that was being generated by that. Of course he was going to respond!
The Premiers did no more than state the obvious - Latham had to go.
Apart from all that, where did Latham stand on issues close to Labor's heart? He was, as Peter Brent describes him a 'serial Howard imitator, who went to water at the slightest provocation'. Well, I just got back from a rally in Perth over IR, where Gallop addressed the crowd - that man has spine, presence and a brain.
So if he's an A-grade asshole, I reckon Latho rates a 'D'.
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Is D a fail? I could never figure out if it meant "needs to improve" or "beyond hope". I'm not sure which applies more...
He could have made PM in different times, and he probably would have done an okayish job.
Definitely should have listened to advice more from what I have observed and read about his time at the top.
Definitely should have listened to advice more from what I have observed and read about his time at the top.
Sorry Guy, don't agree. He had his points, good and bad, and probably had some rough shit happen to him, but he would have a been a very bad PM.
I've never been a Latho fan at all - check out Peter Brent at www.mumble.com.au for the best and most accurate Latham predictions - and he made them on the day Caucus elected Mark. Not to say "I told you so", but I agreed with him back then.
Still, I suppose Howard's been a genuinely horrible PM, Imena pig-fucker horrible, and he sticks around.
I've never been a Latho fan at all - check out Peter Brent at www.mumble.com.au for the best and most accurate Latham predictions - and he made them on the day Caucus elected Mark. Not to say "I told you so", but I agreed with him back then.
Still, I suppose Howard's been a genuinely horrible PM, Imena pig-fucker horrible, and he sticks around.
"Still, I suppose Howard's been a genuinely horrible PM, Imena pig-fucker horrible, and he sticks around."
That's where I'm coming from on this one. Australia has had a few really lousy PMs. (e.g. McMahon). If we can endure them, I reckon Australia would have endured potty-mouthed Iron Mark as well.
That's where I'm coming from on this one. Australia has had a few really lousy PMs. (e.g. McMahon). If we can endure them, I reckon Australia would have endured potty-mouthed Iron Mark as well.
Interesting comment luke:
"I've never been a Latho fan at all"
Sort of goes against stuff I heard you talk about a couple of years ago.. but then again your whole life is a lie isnt it?
"I've never been a Latho fan at all"
Sort of goes against stuff I heard you talk about a couple of years ago.. but then again your whole life is a lie isnt it?
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: 11:10 PM
Suit yourself. I thought he had a chance to win an election - but I preferred Beazley at the time of the ballot for leader.
I thought he (Mark) could win an election. I didn't necessarily think he would be a great PM - and my opinions on that were expressed just as freely, where it was appropriate to do so. In fact I think the words I used were to the effect that a Latho administration could be another Whitlamite disaster.
But you can say what you like. I agree, working for a Latham election victory then bagging him seems inconsistent. But Howard was and is worse - as I said above too.
And if you want to bag me personally, then have a bit of guts and whack your name on it. You're obviously someone who wants to posit that they know me - go on, money where your mouth is.
I thought he (Mark) could win an election. I didn't necessarily think he would be a great PM - and my opinions on that were expressed just as freely, where it was appropriate to do so. In fact I think the words I used were to the effect that a Latho administration could be another Whitlamite disaster.
But you can say what you like. I agree, working for a Latham election victory then bagging him seems inconsistent. But Howard was and is worse - as I said above too.
And if you want to bag me personally, then have a bit of guts and whack your name on it. You're obviously someone who wants to posit that they know me - go on, money where your mouth is.
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